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Dear ‘Pastor Pete’
Remember, screen savers never tell you what programs are actually activated. Beware outward appearances.
After all, some people can’t think and smile and agreement-nod at the same time!
And for some sermon-agreement-nodders, by the time we walk out the door the word of Christ can already be choked.
I guess the ultimate encouragement for a preacher is if the people are doers of the word the rest of the week.
Perhaps you should allow more opportunity for verbal feedback during, after sermons, during the week Eg ask questions and get responses, ask for feedback at some points. Don’t fear debate and comment on the scriptures. Helpful discussion about the scriptures is often very stifled in churches. More discussion and preachers would get feedback in a big way.
Cheers Di
(yes I am nodding….but what am I really thinking? I am thinking I need to work out other ways to encourage my teachers)
Oh by the way, should we do a non-verbal ‘no’ when the teacher is wrong?
Hi Ben
Very funny, but very true. Love the watch tapper!!
Looking forward to giving a few more nods and smiles in the future!
Anna
re: Imaginary Fairy: so that’s what they are looking for!
When I was at uni we did this experiment where were would only give the lecturer positive reponses when he stood in a certain corner of the floor. The rest of the time we looked down or concerned. By the end of the hour we had him well and truly blocked in the back of that corner! But then we were studying Psych (and he was a Psych lecturer!)
Love it!
But Benny, if I’m not laughing it’s because you’re jokes aren’t funny!
Nah not really. Sorry to shocked blog readers, Ben is a dear friend and a good preacher to boot.
Thanks Ben, your descriptions cheered me up after a sad day yesterday, although Di’s point is well taken too. My encouragement from a preacher comes over the long-term, as I see apparently bored hearers living lives of persevering godliness. Mind you, the occasional laugh or nod at the right time does help me feel that the preaching is getting through.
I like - pretty funny.
Do you ever see the positive screen savers:
Dashboard Dog - who nods so frequently it seems their head is on a spring
Deer in headlights: trying so hard to stay awake and concentrate on the awesome preaching but is fighting sleep deprivation.
Cheshire Cat: Smiling so much you can’t tell if the person next to them is cracking jokes the whole time or you are actually funny.
Ben, you must have read the article in Briefing #331:
“Preaching involves two-way communication. Preachers respond to their
audience’s response. So give the preacher
immediate feedback through eye contact,
laughing at his jokes, nodding in agreement, etc. It will spur the preacher on. Nothing is more off-putting and deflating than a disinterested audience.”
Lots of other tips in the article too about how to be a good sermon listener. (The odd tip or two for preachers as well.) Modesty forbids me from saying how good the article is.
Ben—It’s worth saying that some preachers who are, on a given week, sitting in congregations need to hear this word. Preachers themselves need to be good listeners during sermons they don’t deliver.
Awesome, another passage I thought is pretty good is 1 Tim 5:17. Elders, especially those who teach and preach, are worthy of double honour.
I guess the good congregational feedback should come from a genuine respect for the men entrusted with God’s word.
Another tip for good and active sermon listening skills is from something that I find very useful:
Taking notes (they do give sermon outlines for a reason you know!)
I find that if I take notes during the sermon (necessity during Phillip Jensen’s sermons!) I am much more likely to remember the sermon post-church, and if I have a point that I want to discuss with the preacher, I can just look down at my notes instead of relying on my faulty student memory!
And I have to admit to being a sermon-nodder :o) I know that when I’m doing a presentation at uni I like being able to see that my audience is understanding/agreeing with what I am saying! And how much more important for the Word of God!
At college when we studied preaching, which was called Practicum, we had two lecturers:
Dr David Hammer
and David Hammer, junior.
Dr Hammer reminded us of the verse “Be not afraid of their faces” [Jeremiah 1:8; KJV] He told us that some people may only look bored.
One thing I find even more disconcerting than people looking bored is when not a single person says one word about what you have said afterwards.
I’m honestly not looking for praise, but a bit of feedback is helpful. Sometimes the only feedback you get comes from the soundguy.
David to obtain helpful feedback may I suggest two ideas.
Ask people for their comments, as you move around, after the meeting.You will be surprised at the reactions and feedback if they believe you will find it helpful.
Have a small group who will honestly and wisely provide feedback ,on a regular basis with you.
I’m not wanting feedback on my performance, or handy hints on how to preach better, Warren.
I’m interested to hear that people are thinking about the passage or topic that was preached on.
David, both are possibilities and both helpful.It will depend on the questions you ask in the conversations.
I agree with Bec…
I like to take notes during the sermon because otherwise my brain doesn’t concentrate well (no matter how engaging or well delivered the sermon).
I don’t usually go back over them, they are more to help me absorb the sermon as it is given.
My learning method may result in the preacher thinking I am not listening to them because my head is down alot so I make a point of looking up at them and nodding or smiling when I can.
I sit in one of the first few rows anyway so hopefully they can see that I am notetaking and not inspecting my shoelaces.
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