Read the primary documents! Sandy Grant

Hi Sandy. When I was doing my HSC, several thousand years ago, First Level Modern History students had to read “Select Documents” from the periods we were studying, whereas those doing Second and Third Level didn’t have to.

This was puzzling, because reading the sources made the subject easier to understand, not harder.

On the topic of the Gospel of Judas, I noticed this update from Al Mohler’s blog. It turns out that the translation from the Coptic into English is itself more than a bit tendentious at points - especially the claim that it said Judas was good and not evil!

I guess sometimes you need to have the original language if you want to check the primary source. (Hence the importance of learning Greek and Hebrew - where ever possible - for those who want to be congregational teachers of God’s Word.) In this case, we can be glad that other experts in Coptic were (eventually) allowed to access the facsimiles of this gnostic gospel and were able to challenge the problems with the initial translation.

Stephen Jackson01/06/2008 04:42 PM

Interesting stuff Sandy ...

Can I suggest two source documents even for the Reformation - works by St Augustine and Thomas Aquinas.  These are foundational to understanding the thinking of the later Reformers.  It is wrong to think that the Reformers were solely informed by the Scriptures.  To understand the likes of Calvin, Zwingli etc, we need to trace the thread of developing thought of the majors.

Even more, can I suggest the works of Plotinus and Plato.  These are also primary sources for the way the Greek tradition, and then the early church thought about the divide of heaven, earth and the underworld.  We are the grandchildren of all these sources.

Trouble is, there’s not enough hours in the day to absorb all these wisdoms!

Best wishes.

Stephen, I should point out that most Protestants, (including Sandy, I presume) recognise the role that tradition plays in the history of Protestant theology.

But yes, I would agree with Sandy’s exhortation. Read the Bible. Read the Early Church Fathers. Read the Church Councils. Only then can we develop a balanced understanding of our faith tradition. As Cardinal John Henry Newman once stated “To be deep in history is to cease to be a Protestant.”

Hi Sandy, I love it that your people’s key criticism of our course is that it has been too brief smile Cheers, Dominic

ps I can’t wait to tell the people at our church that I have been criticised for being too brief - and that you are a witness!

Stephen Jackson03/06/2008 05:49 AM

David,

Good to hear your support for the role of church history & tradition as informing sources.  I just think we Protestants need to be a little more honest about the legacy left to us from the sources of antiquity. 

I think there is a tendancy to assume it is one clean step to the Reformers, and one more clean step back into 1st century Palestine.  When in reality, our present held convictions rest on a mulitiude of sources and informing traditions over several thousand years.

I have no problem with the assertion that the Christian Scriptures are a primary source of the sacred for all humanity. It is just that I think the Christian Sciptures form part of a continuum of such influential sources throughout history.

Cheers.

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