What do you think of this? Tony Payne

Anthony Douglas31/07/2010 02:27 AM

A good idea worth pursuing, but it looks too long.

I think it is a good tract. I would change just some minor things. The word grandiose has a negative connotation, like someone is delusional. You probably don’t want to make Jesus appear like that. I also think that you should add that Jesus Christ proved the reality of His words and identity by raising up from the dead.

I don’t think it is too long. Reason being too many people are not even biblically literate enough to know the first thing about Jesus. this brings me to a question: who are you trying to reach? This tract as it is would be great for people who think they are going to heaven - professing Christians and other religious people. If you are trying to reach a wider group (including the non-religious), I would include a nutshell gospel in the text, and not assume the reader is familiar with any biblical words or truth.

“Oh it’s OK. He’s one of mine. I know him. He belongs with me”?

Jesus sounds fairly blasé here.

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Send me over a few hundred and I’ll field test them for you. FREE of Charge wink

seriously, like the idea of being a little less “christmasy”.
other than the 1st sentence (re “birth”) and what illustration you include on the cover it could be useful for Easter or general inclusion in a visitors pack.

Al

I like the title which suggests at the outset that one’s been missing out on the real deal.

I agree it’s a bit too long (but only slightly). What to cut out?

It seems aimed at the religious churchgoer (esp. in mainline liberal churches here in the U.S.) versus someone who rarely thinks about Jesus at all and didn’t grow up in church (which is becoming an ever increasing reality).

“Oh it’s OK. He’s one of mine. I know him. He belongs with me.” I agree with Josh that it could be interpreted casually. But reading it in its context you qualify Jesus’ words by first asking, “Does he know you?” (which makes it less blase.)

The latter part has echoes of Packer’s Knowing God. I believe it was in a chapter titled Sons of God where he suggests that the greater truth is not that we know God, but that He knows us. Great chapter.

Finally, I don’t know the availability of Christmas tracts in Australia, but here in the U.S. many publishers roll out new ones every year (which isn’t to say they’re all worth publishing!). The demand for such a tract may be higher in Australia (although we can always use more winsome, substantive tracts).

Michael Greenwood31/07/2010 11:38 AM

I agree with most of the comments made so far. However, as a regular Easter and Christmas Matthias Media Tract giver over the last few years, I think this tract lacks one element that I have appreciated in some of the tracts I have used most - e.g. A Breathtaking Moment, Famous Last Words & Bethlehem’s Got Talent.  That is, it lacks the Current or Popular topic/event of interest introduction that these other tracts have provided to capture the interest of the reader.

I think this would be easy and helpful to add to your current draft tract. The topic you have raised is along the lines of seeing the other side of a person - Almost Jeckyl and Hyde, if you like.  One such illustration that springs to my mind that I think would draw in the reader would be something like Kel Richard’s explanation of Mrs Caroline Grills from his book ‘Journey Towards God’ on p97. This woman appeared to be a nice little of granny to most people who knew her but turned out to be a mass murderer!  Not a mistake you want to make about a person - could mean the difference between life and death - like Jesus!

Hope this comment helps.

Love your work, Tony.

Mike

Hi,

I really like this approach. It reminds me of John Stott’s book Christ the Controversialist, which showed how Jesus overturned so many of our ideas about God and the world!

However, as it stands, this is quite long and there are a lot of tangents before it gets to the main point - I don’t think you can afford that today, when we are used to Tweets and bite-sized commentary. On top of that, the introduction doesn’t grab the reader: “Here we are at Christmas again. Nothing to see here.”

It picks up, with something surprising, in the fourth paragraph - perhaps that’s a better place to start? Something like:

“You might think you know about Jesus. But I am willing to bet that you have got him wrong - even if you go to church.”

Then you can work in a reference to Christmas, and hit them with that passage - which is quite scary for everyone, whether they’re Christians or not!

I like the aim of this, assuming I’ve understood it correctly.

It seems to be saying, ‘Let’s look at some of the non-Christmassy and, frankly, confronting things about Jesus.’

If that’s right, my observation is that you might need to get there more quickly, to grab the throat as soon as possible. It’s paragraph four before we get to ‘But there’s another side ...’ Can you hint at it up front?

Eg “There’s the Christmas Jesus we hear each year. But there’s also the shadowy Jesus who finds it hard to get a look in. And they’re the same Jesus!

“We know ...
“But ...”

You know what I mean?

Thanks for the ideas, everyone. Really useful. I can already see several ways to improve it.

Jennie Pakula04/08/2010 05:28 AM

It’s got lots of good things in it, but I can’t imagine giving it to my non-Christian friends and family.  Maybe it’s the Melbourne perspective, where Christianity barely registers in the public mind; I’d prefer something more intruiging, less confrontational.  And yes I know I’m a wimp.

I just read the passage again. For me the phrase that stood out was “you who practise lawlessness.” One of the major parties is promising “safer suburbs.” Plus there is a real sense of being fed up with hypocrisy and corruption in high places. Maybe something about belonging to Jesus means you have His law written on your heart? Good to get people thinking about the Law.
I read the blessings and curses in Deut 28 to my high school scripture class a few weeks ago. It had a profound effect. We needn’t be afraid of refering to the law, especially when people are living in fear of lawlessness on the street, in the boardroom and in government.

I liked it and would use it.
But it was the 5th paragraph that I really tuned in - I thought you were talking to us before that, I didn’t realise at first it was all part of the tract - so maybe unnecessary bits in the first 4 paragraphs.

It seems small but I think “it’s probably time ” has a superior or distant sound , could you use

“maybe its time” ? More like the suggestion of a kind friend.

As I am wanting to give it to friends, that is how I would want to sound to the friends I would give it to.

And I would want to sound kindly - even in the anonymous letter-box situation.

So..smashing through the junky ideas, but in a kindly way. sounds good.

More great comments. I think the common thread is that it needs to get to the point much more quickly at the beginning. I completely agree.

Here’s my rewrite of the opening paragraphs:

——-

It’s that time of year again when our society takes a moment to remember the birth of Jesus.

Mind you, the Jesus we remember tends to be the stereotyped, airbrushed Jesus of popular culture—the baby Jesus lying cute but harmless in a manger; or the gentle Jesus who walked the hills of Palestine and taught noble spiritual truths.

But there is another side to Jesus that most people don’t know about. When we read the biographies of Jesus’ life (or ‘Gospels’), we discover a Jesus who is much more interesting, and more outrageous. This Jesus physically drives religious hypocrites out of the Jewish temple. He upsets people and divides families. He makes sweeping claims about himself and seems to think he is the answer to the world’s problems.

In this short article, I want to introduce you to this ‘other Jesus’ by looking at one of the most outrageous things he ever said. In fact, I’m willing to bet that after reading these words and thinking about their meaning, you will never be able to think about Jesus in the same way again ...

—-

Better?

TP

Tony,

I’d just add that if it’s to be a Christmas tract, then it would be good to reference Christmas again in the conclusion.

It could be as simple as adding the words, “This Christmas, ask yourself, “Do you know Jesus like that.”

It could be something along the lines of, “It’s hard to imagine that going to church or singing a few Christmas carols once a year is any substitute for a personal relationship with Jesus”, although my wording is clunky here.

I just think it’s good to bring a Christmas tract back to the occasion (even if in a subversive way) at the conclusion as well as the start.

Tony,
The tract is looking great!  I also wanted to say that I appreciate your humility in opening things up for discussion in this format. Anyone (including someone who never shares Christ!) could respond and you still did it, leaving ego at the door, trying to make the tract.  Thanks for the Christlike example.

Blessings,
John

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